Voting for Change

Leaving Zooms out of the Undo cue apparently has plenty of support, although without being able to at least zoom indepently of your undoing (to see what's being undone)... could be one's undoing.

Meantime, Del now only Del's after objects are picked and Chamfer now loses any preselection - it used to be cool when you could preselect both lines or select both with a crossing window some time ago.

Stretch now doesn't start with a crossing window, which it always would need to I think. Plus there are no crosshairs before you type "C", but the worst is mine tends to crash if I don't type "C".

I wonder if any of these points are issues for others?

Comments

  • It does seem better to be able to move around with the mouse wheel while undoing. There must be some reason why that can't be done, which is unfortunate, but I'd say it's still better to keep the navigation out of the undo list.

    I like the idea that Del only works on preselected objects, as the Del key does in non-CAD and newer generation CAD apps. It sounds like a long-overdue modernization, equivalent to using the Esc key instead of Ctrl-C. And for legacy workflows, isn't there still an Erase command that allows post-selection?

    I agree about pre-select for the Chamfer command when using it to mutually extend two lines, though I don't know whether pre-selection would be better for actual chamfering operations, since I don't do that very often. What about Fillet? Does that still allow both lines to be pre-selected, as in v9?

    I think the real issue with the Chamfer command is that by far the most common use of it has always been not to chamfer a joint but to extend two lines to their intersection point. It's always seemed odd to me that Autocad didn't have a command that does just that, without being affected by the current settings for chamfer or fillet.

  • Erase used to be the only way you could... Losing it would be a real legacy issue. Del will have some legacy, but to me it was just a small enhancement which is now gone.

    True, chamfer seems illogical when you join 2 lines and don't end up with a chamfer. That's Acad's doing. Fillet seems even less logical for that.

    Icad always defaulted to chamfer d1, d2=0.5 and I always wonder no one ever seems to have been caught out by it. I setvar them to 0 on opening and ever thankful for the day I noticed it.

  • The thing is, while one command is heading one way in its logic (must preselect for Del), another is heading the other way (can't preselect for Chamfer).

  • Yeah, the break command was the one I missed the most when it stopped working with a preselected entity. At the time it was said to be a change to become more compatible with some other cad app... Likely the same reasoning with the latest round but I can't recall and cannot test.

    I just managed to get updated to 10.1.8 and I see what you mean with the Del... It used to drop into an erase command if there was no preselection but now does nothing at all. I think if you set a Keyboard shorcut to map Delete key to the erase command you should have the same behaviour as before.

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