Terribly unstable
Don't know, how it is with windows version, but linux version is terribly unstable. Last version (11.3.8) is nearly unusable. Is crashes nearly regulary when I try to box select entities in drawing. _Please_ focus on fixing already implemeted things instead of adding new a new features. It looks like each new version is more unstable than previous (previous crashed in intervals around 15min of work). Maybe some tool capable of sending detailed crash report to developers can help.
_Personally_, I will be perfectly happy with rock solid 2D Linux CAD, compatible with some "big" CAD package (AutoCAD or Microstation).
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If you have reproducible bugs, please submit them through the support dialogue, it will help make the program better for all of us. I have found the Bricsys staff incredibly responsive to my bug reports.
With ubuntu 10.04 and mint 10, the most recent builds have been be very stable – just finished a nice sized project this week.
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Sure, this last bug I reported. Other ones I was unable to reproduce from any defined state, so there was nothing to report. I'am using Ubuntu 10.10., maybe there is some incompatibility. With last crash I inspected, that it is crashing somewhere in nvidia drivers, but more I'am unable to debug wihtout debugging symbols ... Which graphics driver are you using?
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I tried to update to latest nvidia driver from here
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
and the problem disappeared. As a bonus, it seems to me faster with raster images. It is probably some bug i nvidia drivers included in ubuntu 10.10. My apology for this post, I was a bit angry, because I needed to work and it was unusable at the moment. Bricscad 10 worked fine, I made neccessary things in this older version.
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The title of this post really is exaggerative, but I think your points are otherwise valid:
- speed and stability (quality) should take precedence over the hunt for new features (quantity), although this is not an easy thing to do for a company that has to position itself in a very competitive market
- crashes should be more verbose. In the absence of a crash report, I always start the program from a console, in the hope that this might reveal some hints, but usually the only thing I see is "segmentation fault"
Still, I am using the linux version in production for quite a while now, and did not hit a wall yet.
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If you start a program from GUI, you can find its output in .xsession-errors file in your home direcotry (at least in Ubuntu and Debian).
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Thanks (really wasn't aware of that) - the crashes I experience do not leave a trace in .xsession-errors, though.
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I have a lot of gtk warnings from bricscad in this log. From crash I get only segmentation fault. I tried run it under gdb and there I saw, that it crashed somewhere in nvidia driver, so I tried newer one and now it works better (I had only one crash this day, unreproducible, it was when I was doing something with drawing explorer).
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I know this one - bc occasionally crashes when the explorer window is dismissed, but no clear pattern visible that would allow for a SR to be filed.
I had the impression that this only occurs when the focus has shifted to the main window, but I'm not sure...
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I just filled one ticket: it crashes after closing drawing explorer when I try to create a new dimension style (and name it). I'am able to reproduce this with fresh start of bc. I attached backtrace of crash from gdb, hope it helps.
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confirmed - seems to happens only when the detail window is in tree mode
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Same here.
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If somebody is wondering how to act when segmentation fault occours: http://www.bricscad.com/common/support/forumthread.jsp?id=14080
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