bricscad express tools v12 in english

kotesh m

can anyone please give the english version of bricscad? right now it is in dutch. please help me.

kotesh m

english version of bricscad express tools  v12?

tanget tools working link for bricscad?

kotesh m

i have translated the bricscad express tools help in english from german. this is for all the bricscad users.

keep our software at high position.

acet.chm

Clifford Hood

I was able to down load the ".zip" file from "http://ww3.cad.de/foren/ubb/uploads/CADwiesel/BricscadV12.zip", install the software and switch from Deutsch to English but I get an "Navigation to the webpage was canceled" error when accessing the help file.

I get the same error with both the german and english versions of the ".chm" file.

Is there some trick to get the help file to work?

Daniel Eiszele

Try right clicking on the file in windows explorer; select properties and then click on the check box that says "unblock".  Hopefully that will sort the problem (it's a security thing!) 

Clifford Hood

I'm using Windows XP64 and the Properties screen does not have an "unblock" box. 

Any other ideas?

Daniel Eiszele

Sorry, I meant "uNblock" button, not check box. Still if that doesn't work mr google has this:  http://www.drexplain.com/press/articles/error_accessing_and_displaying_chm_files_reasons_and_solutions/

Clifford Hood

In regedit I added the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\HTMLHelp\1.x\ItssRestriction\MaxAllowedZone and set the value to 1.

I still have no "uNblock" button but I can open the .chm file with explorer and see the contents and all the help screens. The "About" & "FAQ" are unreadable (lots of funny characters.)

In Bricscad I can see the contents lists but all the help screens have the message "This program cannot display the webpage."

Is there something more in Bricscad I should be doing?

Roy Klein Gebbinck

I think the translated acet.chm in post #3 was created using some sort of "auto-translate" utility similar to Google Translate. The quality of such translations, especially in case of technical texts, can be dubious. As you have dicovered some pages contain "funny characters" and I have a strong hunch that the internal links have not been correctly translated, explaining the error messages that you receive.
It is perhaps a good idea to wait for the official translation. If you have access to the help file for the AC Express Tools you could consult that.

Clifford Hood

I copied the help file from AutoCAD 2008's express tools into the directory and have the same results.  I can view the help file from windows explorer but not Bricscad.

Roy Klein Gebbinck

@ Clifford:
The links in the AutoCAD file obviously don't match those used by the BC tools. And why should they? Just consult the help "manually".

Clifford Hood

@ Roy:
If you go back to the beginning of this topic, kotesh m, was asking people to test his translated version of the help file and promote the software.  I was just trying out the software as requested and trying to fully report the results.

I do think once you get past the WinXP limitation, that Bricscad has a problem working with the help file.  If the OS can work with the file, why can't the application?  There is only one "link" in Express Tools to call the help file (which works), the Table of Contents works, yet rendering the individual pages fails.

I don't expect to use these tools much, if at all, as I have had access to the AutoCAD version since they were introduced and never used them.  Others in my office do use them and if Bricscad as going to be a replacement for AutoCAD, these need to work (including the help.)

Roy Klein Gebbinck

@ Clifford:
I am afraid the original poster has confused you with his statement: "Keep our software at high position."
Kotesh m most likely has no relation with the German volunteer(s) developing the Bricscad Express Tools. He has just taken the German help file and "auto-translated" it without much attention to the quality of the result.
The fact that you can't get the original CHM to work with the German Express Tools may be of interest to the German Developer. I will alert him to this thread.

Clifford Hood

If you place the ".chm" file in the same directory as the other Bricscad help files, they work fine.  All 3 help files render their pages properly.  So I still believe that this is Bricscad's problem.

Martin Drese

Hi there

I attached the original german translation of the Express Tools help file.
But if you like to use the English one, take the Original from the Autodesp Expresstools.
The German one was created by the ExpressTools2GermanProject, which i belongs to. In this file we changed some wrong statements and Commands.
BUT consider the german help file of the express tools we made for the Autocad Express tools. I haven't got the time to create an official Bricscad Expresstools help file yet.
Olso there are some Commands and Functions described, which arn't availleble in Bricscad and the Bricscad ExpressTools.
The Expresstools for Bricscad are completly new build and this is the reason, why they are prorectet at this time.
in Bricscad V12 changed some things and i've had to spend a lot of time to adapt the Expresstools from V11 to V12

acet.chm

Roy Klein Gebbinck

@ Clifford:
The problems you have could be due to a search path issue.

According to the German $Readme.txt you have to follow four steps to install the Express Tools:

1.
Entpacken sie die Zip Datei. Das entpackte Verzeichniss EXPRESS mit allen enthaltenen Dateien plazieren sie im Verzeichniss Bricscad V12.
Unpack the zip file and put the Express folder in the Bricscad V12 program folder.

2.
Die entpackte Datei on_doc_load.lsp verschieben sie in das Verzeichniss Bricscad V12\Support. Sollten sie schon eine eigene Datei on_doc_load.lsp angelegt haben, so öffnen sie die mitgelieferte Datei on_doc_load.lsp und tragen die darin enthaltenen Einträge am Ende der schon vorhandenen Datei on_doc_load.lsp ein.
Put the file on_doc_load.lsp in the Bricscad V12\Support folder. If you already have an on_doc_load.lsp file you should add the content of the file from the zip to your existing file.

3.
Tragen sie das Unterverzeichniss Express in die Liste der Support Dateien Suchpfade ein.
Add the Express folder to the Bricscad search path.

4.
Starten sie ihr Bricscad wieder.
Restart Bricscad.

Perhaps you have not changed the search path. Some info on how to do this: http://www.b-k-g.nl/search-path.html

Clifford Hood

My search path is not the problem.  I added the Express tools directory to the search path from the start, without that Bricscad could not load "Acetutil.des" or find the help file. 

Moving the help file fixed the page rendering problem.  I suspect that Bricscad does not give the help viewer the correct default directory (location of the file),  but I'm not a programmer.

Bill Tybring

This is not about the language difficulties - but has anyone had difficulty with using the "Delete Duplicate Objects" function in express tools (AKA Overkill)??

I was excited to find a Brics version of this but then had the following errors when I tried to run it:

: overkill
Select entities:
Opposite Corner:
Select entities:

; ----- LISP Error : Call Stack -----
; [0]...C:OVERKILL
; [1].....ACET-OVERKILL2
; [2].......ACET-SS-REMOVE-DUPS
; [3].........ACET-GEOM-OBJECT-POINT-LIST <<-- <br> ;
; ----- Error around expression -----
(ACET-ENT-CURVEPOINTS NA (ACET-GEOM-CALC-ARC-ERROR -1.0))
;* no function definition at [EVAL]

Does anyone else experience the same?

(Let me know if I should have started a seperate thread for this.)

Martin Drese

Hi Bill,
to fix this Problem it would be great, if i could get this drawing, you tried. Please send it to my email cadwiesel at cadwiesel dot de

Thanks Martin

Bill Tybring

Thanks, email is on its way.

Martin Drese

Hi there
i fixed the problem. Also i attached the whole Expresstoolsfiles here

Bricscad V12_ExpressTools.zip

Walter Vardanega

 Can some please tell me where I can find the  on_doc_load.lsp file. It was not in the Zip file posted in this forum.

Martin Drese

if its not in the Sopport folder of bricscad, yo'll create it.
Make a copy of the file'on_doc_load_default.lsp' in the same folder, rename it to 'on_doc_load.lsp' and open it by Notepad. delete the whole text inside and type in this row:
;; Silent load.
(load "Acetutil.des")

save the file - ready

Walter Vardanega

 Thanks for that. The express tools work. However the text in the command line are in German?. Is there an English version?

Shun-Hsiang Hsiao

'error : syntax-error <"._erase"> at [READ]' error message when I load  Acetutil.des

PS: My OS is traditional Chinese Win7

Martin Drese

walter vardanega
in the pulldownmenue is an switch 'Language' -> try this

@Shun-Hsiang Hsiao
at this moment i have no idea to fix or to find the part which produces this error.
there is no part in the code, where this used exactly this match ._erase

Are you sure, you get this error while loading Acetutil.des?

Rakesh Rao

Shun-Hsiang Hsiao
We had a similar problem with using GeoTools (also a .DES Lisp application) in China.

We solved the problem using the solution shown in my blog post.

http://rakeshrao.typepad.com/work_smarter_geotools/2011/11/using-geotools-with-non-western-locales-and-character-sets.html

Perhaps, it is the same LOCALE issue. Try this solution and it might solve your problem too.

Regards
Rakesh

www.coordsys.com

Walter Vardanega

 The toolbars have displayed but not the menu. How do I get the menu to display so that I can change the language.

Martin Drese

I'v never had this before. Did you set the new suppurtpaths? unload the menu, and try it again.
Otherway type into the command line MENU_ENG or MENU_GER to switch the Language

Richard Strachan

This is off topic but has to do with part of the express tools.

When you create a messagebox using "acet-ui-message"  ie. (acet-ui-message "abc"  "def" 4100) should it not be modal to Bcad?

I have tried other mesagebox routines and have had the same problem. 

Doslib ("dos_msgbox" ) does create a modal messagebox but I cannot run it in Bricscad Classic.

Just wondering if this is a Bricscad problem or if anyone had some insight into this.

Martin Drese

The function acet-ui-messageis a part of the expresstools. I tried it out and its working perfect.
But im running on win xp. whats your os? Maybe there was a changing in the windows shell.