Leader Issues

Jeremy Cedotal

 When I use the leader command with text, the program automatically puts an extra length of leader line.  How do I turn this off?  What I want is to click on a point pull the leader, click again to end it, add the text centered outside (right or left depending on which direction I pull it) and that's what I get.

For some reason extra leader line is add and my text is pushed back.

Note:  I want to do this with affecting the way my dimension length line/text is oriented. 

Joe Dunfee

I have had many issues with leader lines. 

For just leader call-outs, my only work-around is to copy the leader text to another location, and that copy will no longer be associated with the leader.  Then delete the leader text.  The extra horizontal line will disappear.

For dimensions with leader lines, I sometimes get very weird results.  It is not uncommon for that leader to just be inconvenient how it wants to behave. Sometimes the leader line even goes way far beyond the drawing extents and then comes back to the text.  For dimension leader problems, the only work-arounds I have found, is to either edit the dimension properties to disable all leaders, or even in some cases to explode the dimension.  But, i don't like exploding because in the future someone may want to stretch the drawing, and not be aware the dimension is non-associative.  In that case, I change the dimension text color to Red, to indicate something is weird about it.

-Joe Dunfee

Joe Dunfee

One more thing, I didn't mention that you can edit just the properties for the problem dimension.  You can choose how the text and leader behaves by using the property;

 Fit/Text Movement/Move text, no leader.

That will suppress the leader for just that dimension entirely.

-Joe

Jeremy Cedotal

 Thx Mr. Dunfee.

I am at the beginning of having to redraw all of my company standards/details for a manual and so I am setting up a generic page with all the dimensions, text hts, and layers.  This was one of the things that I could not get to work right

J

John Gaunt

I have never been able to get text with leaders the way I want, or to satisfy Australian standards for that matter. Acad was the same. 

I always draw the leader alone, quite often mine have balloons or other non-text at the tail anyway.

I use a lisp which draws the leader starting from the non-arrow end without asking for text and forgets the tail bit if I don't want it.

Patrik Sparrman

This seems to relate to my earlier problem. http://forum.bricsys.com/discussion/20759 is that so?

Patrik

Roy Klein Gebbinck

With Mleaders you can suppress what is called the 'landing' and achieve what the OP wants. Apart from the landing you may also have to change the leader connection settings (Command: MLEADERSTYLE > Content tab)

Jeremy Cedotal

 The Mleaders thing works.  Thx alot.  I didn't even know there was such a thing.  It seems every command has this "alter-ego" command as welll.  Man, I am so far behind.

Thx again gang.

Joe Dunfee

I just tried the mleader command, along with the mleaderstyle system of saving the settings.  However, as I was doing this, I rediscovered an old way I had done this in the past.

In the past, I created a macro, assocaited with an icon I created.  The macro simply was the following text,
^c^c_dimleader;\\_format;_spline;_exit;

This would allow me to make a curved leader with any number of points.  The benefit of this method, is that the current dimension style drives  things like the scale and text style. The mleader method does not adjust to the current dimension style.

-Joe Dunfee

Jeremy Cedotal

 I still can not get the leader line to work right.  Has there been any updates that will help me out?  I just want to draw the leader without a landing (line going under the text) with the text being justified off the leader end point.

I attached a file showing what the leader is doing now (top) and what I would like for the leader to work (bottom).

Any help will be appreciated.  This has gotten annoying because I have to explode the leader, delete the landing move the text and justify  the text to the leader endpoint...every time...surely there is a better way.

Leader Issue.dwg

Roy Klein Gebbinck

Jeremy, your OP suggests that you want a leader consisting of a single line without a landing.
The drawing in your last post shows that you do want a landing.
To get that all you have to do is change DIMTAD to 0 (Text position vertical = Centered).
I am afraid that existing leaders are not updated properly.

Jeremy Cedotal

 That's it...u are the man

Apparently I do not know what a landing is...my bad.  I am glad I attached a picture.  I though the landing was the line under the text.