Drawing Size Nightmare
Hi Peeps,
I've been using BricsCAD 16 in a professional capacity since May this year. And it has been serving me pretty well.
Today, however, a particular drawing I was working on started to take ages to do simply copy commands, with just one entity. I waited the usual minute and then closed the software down, because there is no way it should be taking more than a few seconds, if that, to copy a single line or circle from A to B.
At first I thought I'd better check what other Windows process were going on, just in case there was something running in the background. But half an hour later I decided that that was not the problem.
To cut a very long story short (I wasted a whole morning in this already), I noticed that the offending drawing file had grown to around 9mb.
There is no way this drawing should be so big. I have drawings with many more entities and the files are a quarter of that.
Here are some facts relating to the problem drawing:-
It contains 2018 entities consisting of 171 arcs, 25 circles, 4 ellipses, 953 lines, 837 polylines, 2 splines and 26 items of text.
If I do an AUDIT on the drawing it reports that 708328 objects were audited (that seems awfully high to me).
I have purged it to death. There are no blocks at all in the drawing.
Here are some details of another drawing I am working on, and this drawing does not give me any problems (yet):-
It is less than 2mb in size and contains 31636 consisting of 15 2D polylines, 3662 arcs, 27 blocks, 11 arrays, 3580 circles, 54 ellipses, 12830 lines, 2 MTexts and 11455 polylines.
If I do an AUDIT it reports that 62183 objects were audited.
I don't normally look at drawing sizes because it's not normally an issue for me. And I'm only created simple 2D layouts here. So I really don't know how big the problem drawing file was yesterday. I certainly wasn't having any problems at all yesterday and I was copying things around within the drawing, and also cutting and pasting between drawings.
Something seems to have gone a bit mad just today.
Any ideas Peeps?
cheers
andy
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maybe ther is so much Data waste in the drawing, which is responsible for this slow motion.
you can try the deep Purge Program, i made some Time ago http://www.cadwiesel.de/index.php?hp=7&mz=2&action=DwgClear&show=11&unterpunkt=38
its free of use for 30 days.
Mostly there are a lot of Layerfilters or Styledefs. Some applications are storing also Block Definitions in an Drawing, which are not able to purge.
Regards Martin0 -
Hi Andy,
if you file a support request and attach the drawing ( max size is 100 Mb )
our support analysts will be glad to investigate what is the cause and help you get the issue solved.
Kind regards,
Hans0 -
maybe ther is so much Data waste in the drawing, which is responsible for this slow motion.
you can try the deep Purge Program, i made some Time ago http://www.cadwiesel.de/index.php?hp=7&mz=2&action=DwgClear&show=11&unterpunkt=38
its free of use for 30 days.
Mostly there are a lot of Layerfilters or Styledefs. Some applications are storing also Block Definitions in an Drawing, which are not able to purge.
Regards MartinThanks Martin.I loaded the .DES application using the APPLOAD command.I then typed DWGCLEAR at the command line.This was what was returned:-DWGCLEARPlease try again.Nicht gelöschte Applikationseinträge:ACADStarte Applikationsbereinigung......fertig.Nicht gelöschte Applikationseinträge:ACAD0 Layerfilter gelöschtKeine Layerstati vorhanden.Keine 0-Elemente gefundenKeine Xdata's vorhandenNo un-referenced blocks.No un-referenced layers.No un-referenced linetypes.No un-referenced text styles.No un-referenced dimension styles.No un-referenced blocks.No un-referenced layers.No un-referenced linetypes.No un-referenced text styles.No un-referenced dimension styles.No un-referenced blocks.No un-referenced layers.No un-referenced linetypes.No un-referenced text styles.No un-referenced dimension styles.Fertig..!The drawing file is still over 9mb.I think I will have to open a support request.Thanks for you help and speedy response :-)andy0 -
Hi Andy,
if you file a support request and attach the drawing ( max size is 100 Mb )
our support analysts will be glad to investigate what is the cause and help you get the issue solved.
Kind regards,
HansThanks for your prompt response Hans. I will raise a support request straight away.In the meantime I tried saving to various DXF files and also earlier version CAD files but that only made things worse.I also tried copying just one single line in another drawing file and that started to increase in size. It started off at just under 2mb and after I had copied just one line, saved, opened and then repeated the process, the file is now 3.6mb and the copying process takes may minutes to complete.cheersandy0 -
Your problem may be caused by 'DGN linetype bloat':
See this topic: https://forum.bricsys.com/discussion/30314
Older similar topic: https://forum.bricsys.com/discussion/267650 -
Hi Roy,I have had an official reply back from Hans and it appears to be a problem with constraints which are somehow multiplying when copied.What is strange here is that I am not actually using constraints at all.This issue isn't totally fixed for me yet because I have since found another file that is doing the same thing.And I am left wondering, "why now?" I've been working on these drawings for a week or so with no problem, and then all of a sudden, files are getting corrupted.I was considering updating to V17 but I don't want to do that until I know what it is that is causing the problem in V16.cheersandy0
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Aha...
See here: https://forum.bricsys.com/discussion/302420 -
Aha...
See here: https://forum.bricsys.com/discussion/30242Hello Roy :-)I am in your debt... I just tried that code in the other topic and it seems to work a treat. So thank you very much for that.cheersandy0
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