Does Bricscad work with Revit models (IFC import)

pawn

Just trying to decide whether to buy the platinum or silver version of Bricscad. So far, it looks like Bricscad will do everything I need to replace 2D AutoCAD which is great but we have clients that are pushing us towards Revit. I really don't know exactly what Bricscad does relative to Revit but I do know the 2 Revit models we have on file crashed Bricscad on loading the file after exporting to IFC from Revit and trying to import so maybe I'll never know.

So I guess the question is, exactly what can Bricscad do with exported Revit files? Is it a substitute for Revit?

Thanks.

Mathieu

Hi

With BricsCAD BIM (Platinum and BIM module) you can import/export IFC files (IFC 2x3 certified).
BricsCAD BIM can replace Revit and it's easier to learn because you work in the .DWG format, because you already know 80% of the commands you only need to learn the extra 20% for BIM. It's also easier to make 3D geometry (diret modelling!) and you have the 2D tools (you already know from ACAD) to make execution plans. There is also BricsCAD Shape (for FREE) to make your designs with solids in .DWG so you can import this in BricsCAD BIM, classify everything and start adding more information (connections, materials,...). A lot easier that using SketchUp and starting all over again in Revit

You should be able to choose the BIM modelling tool you like and IFC is the format to share among all different BIM modelling tools.
If there is an IFC files that crashes when importing with BricsCAD BIM, please make a support request because we want to know more! https://www.bricsys.com/en-eu/support/#14

I don't know what you are using to test but the BricsCAD trial (that can be download on our website) has all features (also BIM) that we offer.

More information:
SHAPE: https://www.bricsys.com/en-eu/shape/
BIM: https://www.bricsys.com/en-eu/bim/ (check the tutorial page)
our BIM blog post (3 articles): that explains our vison for BIM https://blog.bricsys.com/why-use-bim/

If it could help, you can contact a local partner for more information: https://www.bricsys.com/en-eu/contact/

I hope this was helpful!

Mathieu

Michael Mayer

Why doesn't Bricscad use the Teigha RVT option ?

(Not that I think that it so very useful where I tried it, but it is there)

Mathieu

Hi Michael

We are now working on importing RFA using Teigha BIM, so hopefully, you can use this in v19...
To import/export models we focus on the IFC format and we work very hard to keep improving this.

Mathieu

Michael Mayer

Nice that RVT import will find its way into Bricscad.
Maybe it will produce better results in a Solid based BIM and
most of Revit BIM objects may come in as editable BIM objects.
(Does Revit work with or know Solids at all ?)

I also see the future in IFC.
Also never thought or designed to exchange editable geometries
between Apps or even that you should touch other geometries,
Apps made some progress to translate IFC objects into their own
parametric plugin objects.
Especially in Bricscads BIM from Solids approach IFC import already
seems to work pretty well for me.
Beside some more complicated objects
(Walls with multiple components or Walls with Windows/Doors in it)
most geometry of my IFC exports from Vectorworks comes in fine
as proper (IFC tagged) Solids, ready for editing.

Michael Mayer

Would be interesting to see if it would be possible to also
translate e.g. all IFC Windows values, beside width and length,
into a suitable Bricscad's Window Template, based on Constraints.
So that it stays fully editable.

pawn

@Mathieu said:
Hi

With BricsCAD BIM (Platinum and BIM module) you can import/export IFC files (IFC 2x3 certified).
BricsCAD BIM can replace Revit and it's easier to learn because you work in the .DWG format, because you already know 80% of the commands you only need to learn the extra 20% for BIM. It's also easier to make 3D geometry (diret modelling!) and you have the 2D tools (you already know from ACAD) to make execution plans. There is also BricsCAD Shape (for FREE) to make your designs with solids in .DWG so you can import this in BricsCAD BIM, classify everything and start adding more information (connections, materials,...). A lot easier that using SketchUp and starting all over again in Revit

You should be able to choose the BIM modelling tool you like and IFC is the format to share among all different BIM modelling tools.
If there is an IFC files that crashes when importing with BricsCAD BIM, please make a support request because we want to know more! https://www.bricsys.com/en-eu/support/#14

I don't know what you are using to test but the BricsCAD trial (that can be download on our website) has all features (also BIM) that we offer.

More information:
SHAPE: https://www.bricsys.com/en-eu/shape/
BIM: https://www.bricsys.com/en-eu/bim/ (check the tutorial page)
our BIM blog post (3 articles): that explains our vison for BIM https://blog.bricsys.com/why-use-bim/

If it could help, you can contact a local partner for more information: https://www.bricsys.com/en-eu/contact/

I hope this was helpful!

Mathieu

Hi Mathieu:

Yes it was helpful. Sorry, I forgot I even posted this. I already bought a license for the classic version of Bricscad, but if everything keeps going well, I will definitely being buying more licenses for our company and at least one with be a version that can handle IFC files exported from Revit.

We tried importing 3 different IFCs that were exported from Revit using the Platinum trial version and it didn't go well (Bricscad crashed every time). Was that because we didn't have the BIM module installed? It was a standard Platinum install.

Thanks again.

Michael Mayer

We tried importing 3 different IFCs that were exported from Revit using the Platinum trial version and it didn't go well (Bricscad crashed every time). Was that because we didn't have the BIM module installed? It was a standard Platinum install.

Maybe.
But it shouldn't crash anyway.
Maybe just an IFC that crashes Bricscad (with BIM) in general.

If you send that file and a description to Support I am pretty sure they will
stop Bricscad from crashing with that file.

I think there is even a chance to get wishes in IFC fulfilled to a certain amount,
if you think that this or other IFC part should be imported as a different type
or such things.

pawn

@Michael Mayer said:

We tried importing 3 different IFCs that were exported from Revit using the Platinum trial version and it didn't go well (Bricscad crashed every time). Was that because we didn't have the BIM module installed? It was a standard Platinum install.

Maybe.
But it shouldn't crash anyway.
Maybe just an IFC that crashes Bricscad (with BIM) in general.

If you send that file and a description to Support I am pretty sure they will
stop Bricscad from crashing with that file.

I think there is even a chance to get wishes in IFC fulfilled to a certain amount,
if you think that this or other IFC part should be imported as a different type
or such things.

Thanks, I'll send a sample to them. I love the idea of using standard 2D CAD commands to work with (Revit) files. I'm probably a dinosaur before my time but I have very little interest in learning Revit. Unfortunately, more and more clients are moving that way.

Michael Mayer

My clients here too.
Kind of a Standard in Building Industries like Autocad and Microstation
were here in the past.

So an exchange to Bricscad as lossless as possible would be welcome.

Mathieu

@pawn said:

@Michael Mayer said:

We tried importing 3 different IFCs that were exported from Revit using the Platinum trial version and it didn't go well (Bricscad crashed every time). Was that because we didn't have the BIM module installed? It was a standard Platinum install.

Maybe.
But it shouldn't crash anyway.
Maybe just an IFC that crashes Bricscad (with BIM) in general.

If you send that file and a description to Support I am pretty sure they will
stop Bricscad from crashing with that file.

I think there is even a chance to get wishes in IFC fulfilled to a certain amount,
if you think that this or other IFC part should be imported as a different type
or such things.

Thanks, I'll send a sample to them. I love the idea of using standard 2D CAD commands to work with (Revit) files. I'm probably a dinosaur before my time but I have very little interest in learning Revit. Unfortunately, more and more clients are moving that way.

Hi

Please send us a sample file, if there is a problem we want to solve this!

Mathieu