Manipulator - persistent change "Arrowhead acts as 3D scale"?

cadmaster
cadmaster
in 3D Modeling

Any ideas how to do this? This even wont stay persistent in the current drawing! Very annoying!
Using latest BricsCAD 22.

Comments

  • Louis_Verdonck
    Louis_Verdonck

    The default behavior of the manipulator arrowheads is hard-coded (= mirror). The scale behavior only applies the the current command session.

  • cadmaster
    cadmaster

    Thanks, Louis. Can we have the option to switch this behavior permanently?

  • Michael Mayer
    Michael Mayer

    I agree.
    While I personally would prefer just "Copy" as a default.
    (Could also happen by a key, like ALT+DRAG = Copy)
    Scaling or Mirroring as an Option.

    (I avoid mirroring as much as possible, use it only for simple 2D Elements
    because for me it always leaded to problems later when exporting or just
    in general)

  • Tom Foster
    Tom Foster

    Really? what problems? I use it all the time.

  • Michael Mayer
    Michael Mayer

    From Microstation to 3DSMax, everything mirrored didn't translate at all.
    Form CAD to CAD or other 3D exports mirrored objects often lost their
    mirror state or switched mirror axes.

    And now I learned that scaled Symbols will lose their Instance/Reference
    status and will come into IFC as separate Block (duplicates).
    Same for Vectorworks to DWG.

    I use Rotate for symmetric Objects instead,
    redrawing for non symmetric objects :)

    While scaling seems not as risky as Mirroring, I avoid that too.

  • Tom Foster
    Tom Foster

    Blimey - why should that be - that the mirrored geometry isn't redefined natively, but remains a processed version of the original?

  • ScottS
    ScottS

    I, too, use mirror all the time. For regular 2D or 3D objects usually with no troubles, although I do feel a smidge of trepidation when mirroring blocks, which I have memories of occasionally leading to errors or crashes. But since working with BricsCAD BIM over recent versions, I rarely notice problems with mirrored blocks. BimFlip is indispensable for door components, etc., and I believe all that command does is mirror the thing within the opening by setting Scale X to -1.

    Add my name to the vote for user-specified default manipulator behavior (even though I do use the arrowheads most often for mirror).

  • Michael Mayer
    Michael Mayer

    @Tom Foster said:
    Blimey - why should that be - that the mirrored geometry isn't redefined natively, but remains a processed version of the original?

    It looks so,
    maybe depending on Software.

    I think in general it is save to mirror or scale,
    as long as you don't leave your CAD.