Publish keeps wanting to load layouts
This is for Brics Mechanical V25.2.03. When starting Publish it defaults to loading model and layouts of active drawings. How do you set it to load just model space initially? I tried the pull down menu and set to model only but it won't hold the setting when I open publish again.
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Yes, I observe the same behavior, it's wrong. Also Layouts are not removed from the sheet list, when only Model is chosen. There is a development task to resolve this problem, you can add a value to it creating a Support Request about the problem.
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Thanks Lyubov, I sent a support request also.
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Hi Tim, my judgment about the current behavior as wrong was hasty. It seems that changed behavior is intentionall, there is a new explanation from developers in the mentioned task about it:
1. The combo controls adding sheets, not filtering the current list. This is the same as in Acad and was done because filtering approach caused ambiguity issues.
2. It controls adding sheets both from open drawings (in case if according checkbox is on) and from other drawings.
(Note, it does not control loading sheets from DSD - in this case all sheets are loaded.)"Model & Layouts" is always set on start the dialog to avoid the need to reopen the dialog.
I beg pardon for misleading!
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Thanks Lyubov no worries, got the explanation from support. I'll just have to get use to it not that big of a deal really.
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Maybe I am missing something, is there a way to set the publish dialog to only load layouts as the default setting? I searched but could not find it in the settings.
When I open a set of assembly drawings and want to publish it it automatically loads model and layouts and then I have to remove all the model spaces. Every time if there is no DSD, or when the DSD has to be updated. This may be a small nuisance if you routinely publish from one drawing file, but it is a timewaster when having to publish from multiple drawing files.
Apparently there is no way to add only layouts from already open drawings, setting it to layouts only, close and reopen publish adds model and layouts again. Open publish and remove all model and layouts (faster than hunting down models) and then trying to load only layouts doesn't seem to be possible. Argh.
A workaround could be to first open the first drawing and then invoke publish, remove the model space, set the section to layouts only, add sheets and then select the other drawings so that only layouts get loaded.
Imagine having a working set that contains all project drawings which will open all at once, then this won't work and I'm back to square one having to remove all model spaces from the publish.
If there is no way to set the default of publish to only load layouts through settings somewhere (without having to create a lisp command or other convoluted way of doing things) then this is just a plain counterproductive "improvement" causing unnecessary extra clicks etc.
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Having the same issue. This is counter productive. In autocad if you right click in the main area of the sheet list a context menu will come up and allow you to only load layout or model, or both. That setting then sticks. Bricscad is not allowing this anymore? There is still a check box in the options to make it stick. What does that do? I think the Devs missed the mark on this and need to revisit what they have done here. This is a major pain in our workflow. Please Bricscad set this back or put something in the application that will allow this to stick.
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Also note that the publish dialog box reverts it's column spacing back to columns that are so small you can't read what you have loaded after every use. There is no way this is intentional. Please fix this. I'm going to post a bug report, but this should have never made it past Bricscad QA/QC before release. Practically makes it unusable for our firm. Publishing is our main way we print.
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@Fossa where did you find that check box to make layouts only stick? The only check box with regard to layouts and models was to publish all sheets or not. It is possible I may have been looking in the wrong settings section.
I basically use publish only, almost never print. Also almost always publish layouts only so the new behaviour is definitely a step backward. This probably applies to a majority of users.
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Sorry I was moving too fast earlier and misunderstood the save changes to layout checkbox in the options as the box that would control what we were discussing here. That check box is actually used in the regular plot dialog to save changes to plot dialog changes after a print submission.
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I wasn't aware of the fact Acad allows the choices of model or layouts regarding publish. Really when you think about it a drop down menu offers the benefit of choices and if it's not doing that what's the point?
Having said that Support responded that it has to do with sheet sets. I'm "old school" and don't use sheet sets so guess if Publish is exclusively for sheet sets then I'll have to go back using lisps for batch printing.
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It's hidden in autocad, you have to right click in the publish dialog box in the sheet list area. Not really intuitive, as it isn't somewhere you would think to right click in, but it's there.
Bricscad needs to revisit and fix this. Doesn't matter where it is, right click, options dialog, another combo box, just get this functionality back. We are a hybrid office of both ACAD and BCAD. I was going to try and get a few more of the ACAD licenses moved over to BCAD on our next ACAD subscription cycle. Not after this.
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The odd thing is that in V23 it worked fine (as stated by Lyubov Osina) and basically every dwg based cad user I have worked with uses one or the other most of the time so the reasoning to always include both model and layouts and automatically import both would be an improvement seems like a a bit of a disconnect from real world use. (i.e. it may seem like a good idea in theory but in reality it is more an inconvenience than an improvement)
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Here's the response I got from Support:
"Thank you for your feedback. There is a task about this issue and I forwarded it to the development team for their consideration to remember the 'Model' option in PUBLISH dialog, since you don't print Layouts. When the development provides a fix in a future release, this support request will be mentioned in the release notes."
So they're looking into it, that's good news.
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