Express Tools for V15

Phillip Rutledge

 Hi there,

I have two questions:

1. I thought I read somewhere that some of Express Tools are now built into V15. True or False?
2. I see there is a version of Express Tools for V15 but I cannot download it from either the Bricsys site or from http://www.cadwiesel.de/
   Anyone else have this problem. Does anyone have the Tools that could email them to me?

Thank you in advance for your help.

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Phil

Robt Deans

 2. Express Tool's Bricscad Applications DL link doesn't seem to be working here either, but it works fine at the Cadwiesel website.

Also, BcadTools DL works fine in Bricscad Applications, as well as lt-extender.com website.

Phillip Rutledge

Hi there,
I am still having a problem, now I can download the ExpressTools_BricscadV15.zip file but it won't open.

WinZip reports the following error: "Error: Central Directory Not Found"

Still hoping to be able to install these tools.
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Phillip

Ami Tait

Hi,

I'm also having problems. Downloads fine, but Windows cannot seem to open open the zip file.

Would be nice to have

Ami 

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Robt Deans

 I can confirm issues when trying to extract in Windows.

Extracting using 7-zip, however, works properly.

Stefaan Coddé

Still needs tweaks for Bricscad 15.

for instance:

Layman is just layer in V15

Stefaan Coddé

Extracted with 7 zip now, works fine.

Ami Tait

Thanks all

Ami

Phillip Rutledge

 I agree with Stefaan Coddé,

V15 of Express tools seems to needs tweaks.

I'm sorry to say that because we rely on these tools, moving our computers to V15 of Bricscad is going to be hindered.

Sorry Bricsys

martin@enco.us

Which of the Express Tools are you having trouble with?  There may be other lisp routines that will do the same things or there may be re-writes that were done before the package from cadwiesel was released.

Robt Deans

 I finally installed v15 for evaluation.

Also installed latest Express Tools, as well as BCAD tools.

Both appear to function as they did in v14 before.

Ami Tait

I would like to know how to install Express Tools

Ami

Ami Tait

You can find Bcad tools and Express tools, along with other free stuff, on the 'Free Tools & Add-ons' page of the Applications Catalogue http://www.bricsys.com/common/applications/?estore.ApplicationCategory=16

Louis_Verdonck

 Oops, I accidently replaced Ami's last response with my reply. Sorry for that Ami.

Ami Tait

No problem

Ami

Phillip Rutledge

Extracting the files using the 7zip program was the least of my concerns. It was a bit inconvenient but I got it done.

However, I was a little sceptical when the file to load is (load "Acettest.des") instead of (load "Acetutil.des"). The word "test" indicates to me the program is probably not ready for prime time. Then as I played around with the program...

• Some of the routines fail to execute
  Examples:
  Unable to recognize command "CURLAY"
  error : no function definition
  (- TPOS 1) ;* too few / too many arguments at [ACET-UI-GETFILE]
  (and numerous others)
• Some of the dialogue buttons and boxes are still in German and not English
• When I uninstalled the Express menu and restarted BricsCAD it would load the toolbars but not the Express menu. I had to go search for the CUI file in the support path and reload that to bring back the menu bar list of Express tools.

I wish there were a way to get this de-bugged and running again. They are a great set of tools.

Roy Klein Gebbinck

@ Phillip: Have you tried to get in touch with Martin Drese (a.k.a. Cadwiesel)?

Robt Deans

@Phillip Rutledge:
...unable to recognize command "CURLAY"...

This was also the case with v14 Express Tools.
An easy fix is to Customize the Menu Item, changing the Command from:
^C^CCurlay To:
^C^CLaycur

I'm sorry, I cannot comment on your other issues.

Deborah Elliott

Try LAYCUR

Did anyone ever get Express Tools to download to BricsCad Classic?

Deborah Elliott

Getting Express Tools to download to BricsCad Classic has been such a headache. I still can not get it to work.

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Getting Express Tools to download to BricsCad Classic has been such a headache. I still can not get it to work.

I did notice that it is missing these file extentions, which is needed to create a menu.

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Martin Drese

now i'm back in the real World and try to help.
We changed the Server and it seems the downloadpackage was broken, while moving from the old to the new server. Now i upd a new Package. I hope the faults are over now.
Please report if something won't work.

Martin

Phillip Rutledge

 Sorry Martin, ExpressTools_BricscadV15.zip still doesn't open in windows explorer or winzip. I was able to download it from your website and using 7-zip I was able to extract the files but the end result seemed to be a mix of German and English and some commands/routines didn't work.

Sorry.

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Phil

Luis Martinho

 And how about this error, after installing Express? 

: RTEXT

BKG_Rtext - Program version 20141107 

Copyright (c) 2011-2014 Roy Klein Gebbinck - All rights reserved 

Use:  BKG_Rtext  BKG_RtextEdit  BKG_RtextUpdate 

Or:   BRT        BRTE           BRTU 

Current settings: Style=_A2P Texto  Height=0.25000000  Rotation=0

Enter an option [Style/Height/Rotation/File/Diesel] : D

; ----- LISP : Call Stack -----

; [0]...C:RTEXT

; [1].....FETCH

; [2].......ACETRTEXT:PICKTEXT <<-- </div>

;

; ----- Error around expression -----

(ACET-UI-TXTED STR "Edit RText")

;* no function definition ; expected FUNCTION at [eval]

Please help. What's hapenning??

Roy Klein Gebbinck

@ Luis:
It seems that Martin has wrapped my functions and something is going wrong.
Try using one of the three original commands: BKG_Rtext, BKG_RtextEdit or BKG_RtextUpdate.

Roy Klein Gebbinck

For more info on BKG_Rtext:
http://www.b-k-g.nl/bkg_rtext.html

Torsten Moses

Dear Luis, Dear Roy,
it seems, something got broken when we moved the ExpressTools API (all the acet-xxx functions) directly to Lisp engine core ...
I will check + fix the problem, Martin has provided his sources for ExpressTools commands to me.
So it should be easy to compare + fix.
Many greetings !

Luis Martinho

 Great,

Thank you all.

Can you please let me know when you get it? 

My e-mail is:

luis.martinho@a2p.pt

Torsten Moses

There is a minor issue in ExpressTools by Martin Drese (CadWiesel) …
this problem with RText only happens very rare - when it is just the first command used from ExpressTools :-)

I notified Martin Drese about, and it is indeed very simple to fix (I tried on my machine).

Here is a simple workaround :
to have RText working, you only need to pre-load "Acetutil.des" from ./Express folder, for each drawing …

The easiest way is to to add a "on_doc_load.lsp" to ./Express folder, with this content
(load "Acetutil.des")

If you already have such an "on_doc_load.lsp" on another folder, you can also add that statement therel.

Many greetings !

Сергей Терпухов

Also have error in Bricscad v15 (x64):

: TCOUNT
Укажите объекты для добавления в набор:
Укажите объекты для добавления в набор:
Противоположный угол:
Укажите объекты для добавления в набор:
Sort selected objects by [X/Y/Wahlreihenfolge] : y
Specify starting number and increment (Start,increment) <1,1>:
Placement of numbers in text [Overwrite/Prefix/Suffix/Find&replace..] : o

; ----- LISP : Call Stack -----
; [0]...C:TCOUNT
; [1].....ACET-TCOUNT
; [2].......ACET-ESORT
; [3].........ACET-LIST-ISORT
; [4]...........ACET:ISORT <<--<br>;
; ----- Error around expression -----
(SUBSORT2 LST3)
;* no function definition ; expected FUNCTION at [eval]

Torsten Moses

Dear Sergey,

do you really use ExpressTools for BricsCAD V15 ?

This is the implementation used by ET V15
(defun acet-list-isort (plst index) (isort plst index))

It uses "isort" fucntion, not ACET:ISORT ... please check which version of ET you use;
ExpressTools is specific for each BricsCAD version.

Many greetings !