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  • Andrey Didencool
    Andrey Didencool

    @david syes

    sure this is not good place for putting the link @competitor product. You can make this with your blog or twitter or somthing like that.

     

  • david syes
    david syes

    2009-12-28 15:02

    Excuse me. Maybe frustration has blurred my eyes and made me not see what i am not seeing. I must've stepped into another dimension or something.

     

    OK.  I went as far back as:

    Massimo Del Fedele
     3 days to end of December, and still no Bricscad for linux.

    Some news from staff would be appreciated.

    Max
    2009-12-30 19:34


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    And back forward to:

    Daniel Dapena
     Hi,

    excuse me for interfering in this interesting off topic but, When will publish the first alpha version? Any news?

    Regards.

    2010-01-09 19:23
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    And:

    David Gross
     Do you have a Beta version? or a Alpha?

    How far are you from getting it working?

    Thanks
     
    2010-02-17 20:17 #179

    Normand Chamberland
     David,

    Have you not noticed the current top threads on this forum? For the past two months and a half actually?
     
    2010-03-29 17:47

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    And i have yet to receive any download link to try it on Linux. No, i am not going WINE, either if that is what is expected.

    What did i miss? As for links, other sites generally allow users to post them unless it gets flagrantly like a competitor's own marketing efforts. I am not in any WAY affiliated nor involved with anyone behind the link i posted. I PUT it there because i figured Bricsys isn't getting my attention to install something. And, if we all know there is a competitor, it's not some national secret or strategic threat unless it forces massive, unachievable change. We aren't even getting screen shots of periodic, incremental achievements from the team.

    I keep getting messages in my inbox about people asking. I haven't gotten any link about any new forum that supersedes this one. And, if THIS one is superseded, it should have been frozen with a notice to bring up to date agitated and exaspirated people like me who desperately want to ditch windows. Do you know much resources i could save and recover by getting rid of VirtualBox and win7? SO, you'll forgive me for being agitated with all i've been through going from Win4Lin to Vbox and living with hardware vendors who don't make it very easy to get the smoothest used of laptops natively running Linux.

    Feeling bruised and descended upon, i started hopping madly up and down threads back to June 2009. No announcements or pronouncements of "follow this link to the Linux-Native beta..." 127, 128, 129...

    Posts 87, 88, 101.... I'm not a developer, but, i think most of us here want to contribute...

    158.. a glimmer of hope... but

    Normand, PLEASE, PLEASE, insert a link. I feel pummeled by your response and feel as if i traveled time and back as if i missed something. All i'm thinking now is the 1980's Wendy's commercial: "WHERE'S da BEEF?"

    I must be incredibly dense, stupid, and a fool, because i'm not seeing the link. My coping mechanism is screaming at me to be more detached, and not read here again for 2 years to see how far behind i am, because i'm painfully disillusioned.

    PLEASE, set me straight onto the link, the native Linux link. Anyone?

  • david syes
    david syes

    By the way, if anyone thinks i was being malicious or harmful to Bricsys by inserting the URL, you're WRONG. Just to point it out, i've tried in 1999/2000 VariCAD, and THEY DO have a native Linux version, yet it was not to my personal liking. I've tried another deeply feature-rich German product, the name of which eludes me, but also is just not visually what i am able to use on a daily basis given the issues iwth Linux graphics and the geekish nature of Linux devs designing apps as if there were not a single insinuation of windows. Too many people have been brought up on windows to expect they'll take even a free($) Linux app. Look at OpenOffice.org, for example. Look at GIMP. Even GIMP is shedding that albatross dialog mode it has for YEARS insisted on foisting upon hapless users stymied by floating, seemingly-unmanageable dialog boxes that blend in with the work being done. I tried the win version of Bricksys and want the Linux version to look and behave almost as faithfully to that. I want familiarity, but want it to be decidedly NOT a native windows app. Far too much available code and inexpensive developers exist for any state of affairs of a 3-years-running situation. That's what my overly-attached gripe is about.

  • Normand Chamberland
    Normand Chamberland

    @ David,

    Wow.

    So you really don't know how to browse this forum.

    There has been no email links provided by Bricsys. Maybe they should have created a mailing list for interested people, because right now you have to monitor this forum for news and links to the latest alpha releases. Anyway.

    Right now, you are reading just one discussion of the Bricscad for Linux forum (and at 185 replies, probably the biggest). From here you can access the forum by the link at the top of the page, where it's written Forums > Bricscad for Linux.

    Or click here: Bricscad for Linux forums.

    There, you will see that many more discussions are listed. You will also see that a few of them are named "Bricscad for Linux alpha". The first such discussion was created 2009-12-31. There has been 5 more since.

    Clicking on one discussion subject will bring you to all the posts in this discussion. The latest Alpha Release is v10.3.7. Here's the link to the discussion thread. In the first post from Tijs Vermeulen, there is a download link for this latest release. Once you've downloaded it, I suggest you visit my blog, where I've reviewed the v10.3.6 release. It will give you some pointers on how to install and run it.

    If you encounter problems, you should post in the 10.3.7 discussion so people can help you (or post a comment under my blog, but I'm warning you, I have a nasty CAPTCHA system to prevent spam -hey maybe that's why nobody ever leaves a comment, LOL).

    And keep in mind this is an alpha release, it's got a few bugs and not all features have been implemented yet, but there's been great progress since January. Bricsys doen't compile bug reports from alpha-testers at the moment.

    You will need to monitor the forum to know if a newer release has been posted.

  • david syes
    david syes

    Thanks Normand,

    I am humbled, and i truly appreciate your setting me straight.

    At my next opportunity i will give the alpha a whirl, and hopefully become addicted. It's always nice to have choices, and good ones. I hope i become a more positive contributor.

    Again, thanks!

    David Syes

  • Normand Chamberland
    Normand Chamberland

    It's okay David,

    I know I was harsh and it was not really necessary to be so patronizing. I'm like that sometimes...

    I was told not long ago by someone that they didn't find the Bricsys forum terribly user-friendly. Having been a regular user on a lot of forums over the years, I found that comment kind of odd, even though it's true it's not the best UI (by far) that I've seen. He may have had a point.

    Plus the ridiculously microscopic fonts don't help.

    It is true that Bricsys took their sweet time (even though for very good reasons) before finally starting work on their Linux version. But they are very open about it now, and in the commercial world, allowing anyone to follow the software development as early as the alpha stage with no strings attached is almost unheard of. Bricsys is getting in the spirit of what Linux is all about (well not completely, for them to go all the way would require to make Bricscad open source! :-P).

    Do take the time and download the alpha. It is getting usable now. It is quick to set up. And if you run into trouble, I'll try to give you a hand.

  • david syes
    david syes

    Thanks for offering to help. I appreciate that. BUt, hehehe, it'll probably depend on Mandriva. (More and more, lately, it seems that between Pulse/KDE4/Fluendo/Mandriva, most of my DVDs will not play anymore on Mandriva 2010. I have all the same codecs as before, and I can watch my DVDs (old and recently purchased ones) on my PCLinuxOS box, but it seems Mandriva and Fluendo must have some mutually beneficial "directions" going on, hehehe. I keep getting redirects from some apps that won't play youtube stuff, and they send me to Fluendo. Until they came along, there seemed to be no licensing or business reason for Mandriva's code to obstruct decent DVD play. Maybe it's me. Good thing my other laptop still runs... By the way, if you're looking for Linux-friendly laptops, i hear the BEST ones are those built IN China FOR the Asian market. They -- just as Europeans -- are far, far more open to Linux than the US is, and though my new HP is running better now than 2 months ago, i still feel "Linux-friendly" HP could do better. My weaker Gateway was iffy at first, too, but now i'm reticent to mess with or upgrade it anymore since i keep it off the net usually, and since TexStar seems to be very day-job busy to do any more updates as of the last time i checked (maybe December?)....)

    I'll try tnight to download the latest Alpha and report back if i have any unique observation or something to add not previously mentioned.

    Regards

  • Normand Chamberland
    Normand Chamberland

    Heads up folks. Tijs has posted this in the new Bricscad for Linux alpha 10.3.10 discussion thread:

    A Bricscad for Linux RSS feed has been created.
    To receive notification for subsequent versions, you can subscribe to this RSS feed.
    It is also possible to access the Bricscad for Linux RSS feed as html page.

    Greetings
    Tijs

    This is a nice alternative for those who don't monitor the forum regularly for updates on the Linux version of Bricscad. This discussion is getting old now...

    Thanks Tijs! And for bumping the font size up a notch too. My old eyes thank you. :-P

  • tomas yanez
    tomas yanez

    Ubuntu 10.04 AMD64

    .tgz works

    Any way we can support?

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